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The real deal on the East Cobb Park donation offer and more specifics on the October Isakson Living East Cobb proposal

10/27/2014

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The Norris Tritt Bridge at East Cobb Park

This post covers new specifics on:
The East Cobb Park donation offer, 84 retirement houses vs. a subdivision, why the Isakson Living East Cobb proposal would raze more Green Space than previous plans, the height & square footage of the 11 multi-story buildings, and which commercial businesses are planned within the CCRC

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East Cobb Park
Issue #1: 
The East Cobb Park donation
In January 2014, Isakson Living offered 9.5 acres of the Tritt property floodplain to East Cobb Park as part of a rezoning package deal.  This was a welcome development in negotiations, and in truth, this land cannot be built on by any developer because it is in the floodplain, so it seemed like a natural gift.  We were surprised to read in their October 24th stipulation letter to the Cobb County zoning office that Isakson Living specified the land donation "shall occur after completion of the entire project."  (Here is the entire stipulation letter.) 

How long would the entire project take until completion?  In the previous 3 Isakson Living plans, they stated the entire project would take 10 years, but with this latest plan, that time was shortened to 3-4 years, although no details were provided on how it could be built that quickly.  The build out is still based on sales and the future of the economy.  

However, it could take much longer than 10 years by looking at the track record of 1 of the other 2 Isakson Living CCRC properties. Isakson Living Peachtree Hills has remained an empty lot for over 9 years. and Isakson Living is still being sued for 30.5+ million. The East Cobb property may be viewed as a way to clear up the Peachtree Hills debt, but then what would happen to the viability of the East Cobb property?
The Tritt property is too valuable to the East Cobb community to be part of a risky business venture: we don't want a large-scale commercial endeavor or an empty lot on the last remaining green space property in East Cobb!  As most people around here remember, the Tritt property right next to East Cobb Park was in the top tier of properties identified by the Cobb County Park Citizens Board to be purchased, and was on the short list of the $40 million 2008 Park Bond.  
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Deer seen on the Tritt property October 2014
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Funding Park Bond 2008 Effort


The 2008 Park Bond has yet to be issued, and many concerned citizens are also asking that the 2008 Park Bond be issued now for the purchase of park properties, as intended in the 2008 voter-approved referendum. 
So how long until Isakson Living would actually donate the 9.5 acre floodplain to East Cobb Park?  Anywhere from 3 to 10 years or more, depending on how they define completion of the entire project.  That could mean a generation of East Cobbers waiting for the floodplain donation.   

We wonder why the 9.5 acre floodplain, as well as all the acres of stream buffers on this property that cannot be built on by any developer, would not be immediately conserved as green space.  In fact, a full 15 acres of the 54 acre Tritt property is floodplain or stream buffer and must be preserved by any developer, so why wouldn't the full 15 acres be protected in a permanent conservation easement or even donated from Day 1?  

Another real concern is that Cobb County never said they would accept the land donation, and if they do not accept the donation, none of the 9.5 acres would go to East Cobb Park. 
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Playground at East Cobb Park
Issue #2: 
84 retirement houses versus a subdivision
Let's look at the 84 retirement houses proposed by Isakson Living. These are the 6 house images Isakson Living provided (8 photos total as 2 photos are different angles of the same house).

First of all, the houses are very nice, but at 2-stories and 3-stories, and ranging between 2,150 and 3,800 square feet, they are an odd choice for retirement houses in a CCRC.  Note that all the houses in the Isakson Living Park Springs CCRC in Stone Mountain are 1-story, so we wonder why these 2-story houses were selected for a retirement community.  Who would retire to a house with walk-up stairs just to get to the front door? Any CCRC should be built with accessibility for all.

At least 3 of the images are photos of Vickery homes from an existing subdivision in Cumming, Georgia, which is not a retirement community. For all intents and purposes, the Isakson Living plan appears to be a densely packed cluster home subdivision in addition to a CCRC with large apartment complexes.  
Photos from Isakson Living proposed East Cobb retirement houses
So how many houses could be built if the Tritt property were a subdivision?  
Realistically 88 houses could be built on the property given the current zoning, 
without any multi-story buildings or on-site commercial businesses.  
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The 54-Acre Tritt property
If the entire Tritt property were developed as it is currently zoned R-20, 115 houses is the maximum number of houses that could be built, since the property is Low Density Residential, but we would oppose that many houses, because it means a zoning more dense than R-15, which would only allow a maximum of 97 houses.  The topography of the property, including steep areas, and several acres of floodplain and stream buffers which cannot be cleared, may mean that fewer than 97 houses could be built, and 88 is a realistic estimate.  
How can Isakson Living suggest building a CCRC (Continuing Care Retirement Community) with 84 full subdivision-sized houses (rather than accessible retirement-sized houses), in addition to 11 multi-story buildings with many commercial amenities, when a subdivision developer could only build approximately 88 houses total?  
We are not against senior communities, but a CCRC is a very intense type of senior community, basically a hybrid of an apartment complex and a nursing home, with a little on-site retail thrown in.  In Cobb County, you cannot build an apartment complex or a nursing home (a.k.a., a supportive RSL) on Low Density Residential land, so why should a hybrid of the two be allowed?  A non-supportive RSL, or retirement community, is allowed on Low Density Residential land, but it is restricted to 2 stories and 5 units per acre.  A CCRC has no such protections built into the code.
Watch: The CCRC Zoning Code was opposed from the beginning here
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Google map showing East Cobb neighborhoods in the Walton school district, and the proposed site of an Isakson Living East Cobb CCRC.  (The new WellStar Health Park evaded zoning by invoking Hospital Authority eminent domain to de facto change low density residential to medical office.)
Isakson Living is still proposing a CCRC with a greater density than their Park Springs Stone Mountain location, which has basically nothing around it, and 0 houses within 2,000 feet.  The East Cobb CCRC location would have 27 houses bordering it, and more than 750 homes within 2,000 feet.  

We continue to question why Isakson Living would plan to build a large-scale CCRC in this community, in the midst of hundred of homes in the Walton school district of suburban East Cobb, which is overwhelming categorized Low Density Residential.  

Issue #3: 
Why the Isakson Living East Cobb proposal would raze more Green Space than previous plans
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Isakson Living October 2014 Plan



Watch: The CCRC Zoning Code was opposed from the beginning here
Another shocker in the October 24 stipulation letter is the request for a variance to the CCRC code, especially disappointing because Isakson Living helped write the CCRC code in 2008. Even in 2008, community members felt that the code was poorly designed and tended to favor the developer over the community, and you can actually view the video and details about the CCRC code here.  We asked for the County to review and amend the code due to these very issues that Isakson Living is pressing for exceptions to now. Isakson Living should not be allowed variances to get around the few provisions of the code which protect the community!  The variance request or code exception would result in acres more green space being lost. 
According to the CCRC code, all houses more than 1½ stories must be clear of a 100-foot protected buffer.  However, the Isakson Living plan has 16 of the 84 total houses within 100 feet of the perimeter, and some are as close as only 30 feet from the perimeter!  Building so close to the property line is the reason why the amount of preserved green space is actually less than all the previous Isakson Living East Cobb plans (see a comparison of all 4 plans here).  The other Isakson Living plans kept the 100-foot buffer.  
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Proposed East Cobb retirement house
 The Cobb CCRC zoning code, paragraph (4) b. 7. states:

"When any building is within 100 feet of the perimeter of the project and is contiguous to less dense residentially zoned property, that building will consist of single-family, duplex, triplex or quadraplex units not exceeding one and one-half stories in height."
While we welcomed the reduction in the overall number of units in this October plan,  any positive gain was nullified by IL reducing the overall undisturbed green space in the process. In addition, the number of houses went from 30 (1-story) houses to a very dense cluster of 84 (2-story) houses.  Zoning regulations are put into place to protect homeowners from commercialization and overdevelopment, not to ignore those rules for the benefit of developers.  

The next exception to CCRC code that Isakson Living is requesting involves the height of the 11 multi-story buildings.
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Isakson Living Park Springs in Stone Mountain
Issue #4: 
The planned height of most of the 11 multi-story buildings still goes against the CCRC code
A CCRC on low density residential land is limited to 2 stories, unless the Board of Commissioners approves up to 4 stories, "taking into consideration the view-sheds, setbacks and height of buildings".  The topography of the Tritt property does not support 4-story buildings, because the land rises up from the floodplain to steep hills.

If these 4-story buildings, which would also require retaining walls, were allowed to be built, the view from East Cobb Park would be destroyed, particularly from the higher ground areas.  There is a large downhill slope along Roswell Road from Old Canton Road to Sewell Mill Creek, and people driving along Roswell, or down Providence Road, will see the upper floors and roof of what appears to be a giant apartment buildings.  Residents, visitors, and potential home buyers will see this.  This will have devastating effect on the way this area is perceived: no longer suburban, but urban.

Regarding the height of the buildings, it should also be noted that while Isakson Living Park Springs was under construction in 2004 after getting initial zoning for 3-stories over parking, they rezoned to add another story, so 4-stories over parking, also known as 5-story buildings.   The Isakson Living East Cobb proposal is currently for 3-stories over parking, or 4 stories, and a very real possibility is that they would go back and rezone for additional stories, so that at least 7 buildings in the East Cobb CCRC could be 5-stories tall. Remember that all the other previous Isakson Living East Cobb proposals included 5-story buildings. Also, the Tritt property is on a hill, so it would actually look much larger than a Park Springs 5-story building appears.
Isakson Living Park Springs
Isakson Living Park Springs
Isakson Living Park Springs
Isakson Living Park Springs
In terms of square footage, Isakson Living provided these "approximate numbers" for their 11 multi-story buildings.  We can only assume that the actual buildings may be somewhat larger, however it is a starting point for understanding the scale of this project.

Building A - 17,500 sq ft
Building B - 75,000 
sq ft
Building C - 100,000 
sq ft
Building D - 65,000 
sq ft
Building E - 125,000 
sq ft
Building F - 90,000 
sq ft
Building G - 60,000 
sq ft
Building H - 55,000 
sq ft
Building I - 50,000 
sq ft
Building J - 45,000 
sq ft
Building K - 65,000 
sq ft
84 Houses - 252,000 sq ft
Total = 999,500 sq ft
(so roughly a 1 million square foot project)
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Isakson Living East Cobb Plan from October 2014
When adding in the 84 houses at an average of 3,000 square feet (252,000), the total square footage comes to just under 1,000,000 (999,500) square feet, very similar to total square footage of the previous plan, 1,124,034 (1.124 million) square feet of air conditioned space.  Compare this to a subdivision of 88 houses at 4,500 square feet, which would equal 396,000 square feet total. This is why this property is zoned low density residential rather than commercial.
Issue #5: 
The commercial businesses planned within the CCRC
How many commercial entities would Isakson Living include in an East Cobb CCRC?  We have not been given a definitive answer to repeated requests about what commercial businesses would be operating in the CCRC. The only businesses that Isakson Living has specified so far are 2 restaurants, 1 cafe, and a fitness center. 

The October 24th stipulation letter gives a few more examples, but no confirmed specifics:  "The proposed community may include, consistent with the CCRC Zoning Ordinance, on-site amenities, such as dining, activities, entertainment, fitness, wellness, and other senior based ancillary-sized uses for limited retail, such as small general store, beauty or barber shop, library, art studio, and woodworking shop." 
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One reason we ask is that the CCRC code has a wide latitude on the types of commercial amenities allowed on-site, and it would be helpful to know how many businesses are planned for this development.  It is also important to have an idea of how many delivery and service vehicles would be adding to the overall traffic impact.                   
The CCRC code states these on-site amenities are permitted: 
"Administrative offices for any accessory use. 

Ambulance and medical transport services. 

Athletic and health clubs. 

Bakery. 

Banks and financial institutions. 

Beauty and barber shops. 

Beverage shop. 

Bookstore. 

Butcher shop. 

Camera shop. 

Chapels and other places of worship. 

Clinics. 

Clothing shop. 

Community and cultural meetings. 

Dance studio. 

Delicatessen. 

Dry goods shop. 

Eating and drinking places.

 
Film developing and printing. 

Florists. 

Garden plots. 

Gifts and stationary shop. 

Golf cart parking, sales and service. 

Grocery items. 

Hospice care. 

Jewelry shop. 

Laundry and dry cleaning pickup. 

Medical and dental laboratories (provided that no chemicals are manufactured on-site). 

Pet care/short-term boarding (no outside runs). 

Pharmacies. 

Professional offices. 

Recreation grounds. 

Rehabilitative services. 

Self-service laundry. 

Storage for residents' personal items." 
The Tritt property is zoned R-20 low density residential, and it is not zoned for a CCRC or any other commercial business for a reason. Zoning regulations are put into place to protect communities from commercialization and overdevelopment. Landowners can sell to whomever they choose, but zoning codes should still be upheld for what can be built after the sale of a property. Zoning codes should not be disregarded for developers. Zoning codes are designed to protect our neighborhood homes, schools, and parks.
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Please support this endeavor to protect East Cobb
from such a large-scale development:
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  1. Sign the New Petition against zoning Z-2.
  2. Contact the Commissioners to express your opinion on this rezoning case.
  3. Attend the November 4 and November 18 hearings.  
    Since November 4 is Election Day and Cobb County schools are closed, plan to vote early, and bring the kids to the meetings to learn about democracy in action!

This week, there are 3 additional meetings everyone is invited to attend and ask questions about the Isakson Living proposed development. 

  1. Isakson Living community-wide presentation on October 27th at Mt. Bethel United Methodist Church at 7:00p
  2. Commissioner Bob Ott's October 29th ECCA meeting presentation at the East Cobb Library at 7:00p
  3. Commissioner Bob Ott's October 30th Town Hall Meeting at Mt. Bethel United Methodist Church at 7:00p
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Does this Large-Scale Complex Belong in East Cobb? 

10/22/2014

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Does this Large-Scale Complex Belong in East Cobb:
Comparing the East Cobb CCRC proposal and Park Springs CCRC 

Below is an actual 5-story building (4-stories over parking) at Isakson Living Park Springs in Stone Mountain.  The Isakson Living East Cobb proposal from October 2014 includes 4-story buildings (3-stories over parking) for 7 of the 11 multi-story buildings (see plan below).  In addition, 84 houses 2- and 3-stories tall are part of the plan. (see images below)

This 5-story Park Springs building is still very much a possibility in East Cobb:  While Isakson Living Park Springs was under construction in 2004 after getting initial zoning for 3-stories over parking, they rezoned to add another story, and these became 5-story buildings. 

The Isakson Living East Cobb proposal is currently for 3-stories over parking, or 4 stories, and a very real possibility is that Isakson Living would go back and rezone to ask for additional stories, so that East Cobb would become exactly as this image shows:  a 5-story building.  All the previous Isakson Living East Cobb proposals included 5-story buildings.  Also note that the Tritt property is on a hill, so it would actually look much larger than the Park Springs image appears.

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Isakson Living Park Springs 5-story building (4-stories over parking)
Isakson Living recently released some of their plans for a proposed retirement community (CCRC) on the Tritt property, next to East Cobb Park.  This plan is designed to be more like Isakson Living's existing retirement community called Park Springs, located in Stone Mountain, Georgia.  However, the Isakson Living East Cobb proposal is actually much larger than Isakson Living Park Springs, and when the East Cobb location is compared to the surrounding area in Stone Mountain, the East Cobb proposal is dramatically larger even still.   Even the proposed CCRC houses in East Cobb are 2 times larger than the CCRC houses in Park Springs.  

As these photos show, Park Springs is attractive, but it looks like a massive apartment complex. Something like this is simply out of place in East Cobb, particularly when adjacent to existing neighborhoods and homes. 

Images below from Isakson Living Park Springs in Stone Mountain
Park Springs in Stone Mountain
Park Springs next to Stone Mountain
Park Springs in Stone Mountain
Park Springs in Stone Mountain
Park Springs in Stone Mountain
Park Springs in Stone Mountain
Images above from Isakson Living Park Springs

Proposed East Cobb Retirement Houses Would Be
2 Times Larger 
than Park Springs Retirement Houses

East Cobb CCRC House (proposed)
East Cobb CCRC House (proposed)
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These 2 Houses above are from the Isakson Living East Cobb CCRC proposal for 84 houses 2- and 3-stories tall. 

The 3 Houses below are actual 1-story houses from Isakson Living Park Springs.
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Park Springs CCRC House
Park Springs CCRC House
Park Springs CCRC House
 
Below is a comparison between East Cobb and Park Springs neighborhoods.
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Note that Isakson Living Park Springs in Stone Mountain is located next to a golf course, wooded acreage and convenient shopping. Few traffic problem exist due to the location.  (Same Google Map scale as East Cobb.)
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Note the East Cobb location would be more dense than Park Springs, yet this property is surrounded by thousands of homes, many schools, and a new 162,000 square foot WellStar Health Park, which bypassed proper zoning channels.  The large-scale Isakson Living CCRC would greatly impact traffic.  (Same Google Map scale as Park Springs.)
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Residential East Cobb Area
                        Park Springs and Isakson Living facts and timeline:

  • Park Springs is located in Stone Mountain, Georgia, on the east side of the mountain, in DeKalb County, but right on the Gwinnett County line. Park Springs Address: 500 Springhouse Circle, Stone Mountain, GA 30087.  
  • 1997 - Isakson Barnhart (old name for Isakson Living) proposes a mixed-use development, including a 394-unit apartment complex on Bermuda Rd in DeKalb County.  The local community strongly opposes, on the grounds of school overcrowding and property values.  A compromise is reached whereby the development is age restricted, and becomes the Park Springs CCRC retirement community.
  • 1999 - Isakson Barnhart proposes a dense, apartment complex-like CCRC in Athens, GA, and is defeated.
  • 2004 - While Park Spring CCRC is under construction, Isakson Barnhart goes through DeKalb County zoning a second time to raise the height of buildings from 3- to 4-stories
  • 2005 - A year after Park Springs opens,  Isakson Barnhart initiates 3 years of legal action against the DeKalb County tax assessor to substantially lower their property taxes
  • 2008 - Isakson Barnhart is part of a committee which drafts Cobb County's CCRC zoning code
  • 2008 - Isakson Barnhart's proposed Peachtree Hills CCRC in Buckhead stalls, leaving empty lots to this day
  • 2009 - Isakson Barnhart splits into two firms, Isakson Living and Barnhart Guess.  
  • 2010 - The Stone Mountain Super Target, built by Isakson Barnhart directly in front of the Park Spring CCRC, goes out of business.
  • 2011 - BB&T sue Isakson Living for 30.5 million for Peachtree Hills CCRC default.  The case is still pending in court.
  • 2013 - Isakson Living proposes a 987-unit CCRC on the 54-acre Tritt property, next to East Cobb Park.
  • 2014 - Isakson Living proposes a 498-unit CCRC that includes 11 multi-story buildings and 84 houses 2- and 3-stories tall. Below is the plan image received from Isakson Living.
This is the October 2014 Isakson Living Plan:
11 multi-story buildings and 84 large cluster homes next to East Cobb Park
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Isakson Living East Cobb proposal October 2014
Please email the Commissioners, sign the New petition against the October 2014 Isakson Living plan, and join us on Tuesday, Nov 4th, to oppose this development in East Cobb.
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